French Drain Mistakes

10 French Drain Mistakes to Avoid – Remodel On Point

Last Updated: 2022-02-16By

French drain is a creative solution to divert water away from the house and keep it protected. Unfortunately flooding still happens too often these days and very costly to fix.

The idea is to dig a trench with weeping tile and direct water down the slope. Sadly contractors charge a lot of money for this work. It seems simple to make a french drain but mistakes can cause the opposite effect from what you are looking to do and flood the whole house.

To avoid costly mistakes and have to redo entire project we decided to list 10 common french drain mistakes. It could help home owners properly do DIY job without spending extra money and remind contractors what to be careful with.

Here are 10 french drain mistakes to avoid:

  1. Forgetting to Do Locates
  2. Incorrect Slope
  3. Missing Drain Fabric
  4. Not Putting Weeping Tile
  5. Whipping Tile Not Connected
  6. Wrong Material/Rock Backfilled
  7. Overloading French Darin
  8. Regulations and Bylaws
  9. Exit Point for the Water
  10. Avoiding to Deal with Roots

Even contractors that perform similar work every day and specialize in french drain installations; we suggest creating to do list for all. Outlining common mistakes will help prevent issues in completion and warranty jobs.

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Forgetting to Do Locates

This one is really important to complete before starting to dig. We understand that trench is never deeper than 4 feet and should not cross service lines, but staying safe is the first rule of construction projects.

Call  811 – It’s easy to remember but also easy to forget making that call. Larger companies implement creative strategies for reminding every crew to get locates before any excavation is made. The first french drain mistake can be avoided by putting a sign on truck, morning safety talk and mandatory safety training for workers.

We understand that drain companies almost never get large enough to have separate budget for health and safety department. For the sake of protecting all workers and company from fines for damaging service lines (gas, water, electrical wires) make it mandatory to check every morning.

Avoid Fines – Companies responsible for damaging city lines are fined from few hundred up to several thousand dollars.

Health Hazards – The most dangerous service line to accidentally break is electrical. Many people get major electrocutions and die every year from hitting underground power line.

Incorrect Slope is Among French Drain Mistakes

Once again let’s start from beginning. French drain purpose is to direct water away from house without implementation of any motor or pump.

Therefore water has to be absorbed and trench mechanisms go down the hill. Another way of saying it is: create continuous and positive slope of 2 – 4 percent.

Simply digging out a trench and collecting water inside can cause immediate flooding and long term structural problems for the house. If water does not go away it certainly affects foundation wall.

Engineers and licensed suggest minimum 1 percent for French drain slope but our recommendation is slightly above that. This is due to sand with dirt accumulating inside pipe walls and higher slope makes it easier to push it through.

To make it easier – install weeping tile two to four inches lower every 10 feet. Some projects have limited height and complicated elevations to work with. There we suggest going at least 1 percent slope, but increase it if possible.

Missing Drain Fabric

Next item on our list of mistakes for installing french drain is missing fabric that protects pipe from filling in with soil and other debris.

Accumulation of dirt and small rocks can cause complete blockage of weeping tile and water will go backwards towards the house. This is worse than having no french drain at all. Damages  can be caused to home structure, trees, roots and landscape.

There are two ways to make sure this tragedy does not occur and within a year of time the owner would call back for redoing french drain completely under warranty.

Buy Weeping Tile With Fabric – this is a simple one. Never purchase weeper without fabric on it.

Inspect Fabric Before Installation – pull it very hard from both end of pipe and inspect for damages. Fabric can have been laying in storage for months and even years. This can significantly lower sturdiness.

Not Putting Weeping Tile

Finished trench without weeping tile does not serve any purpose. We have been amazed several times when home owners reported to us (with images) french drain finished without weeping tile at all.

This mistake is very hard to comment. It can be compared to car without wheels or house without roof. This insanity should not be ever performed and weeper is the main vehicle of french drain technique.

Apparently some contractors thought that putting clear gravel was enough for water to go freely underground. The only problem with that, it mixes with soil and becomes as solid as other dirt.

Some have experimented with putting real plastic pipe with holes in it – Still terrible idea. It does not freely absorb water and holes get plugged by gravel. In other words its useless and nothing but weeping tile will work.

Whipping Tile Not Connected

In large projects there could be several trenches connected together. It is too a french drain but much larger that single trench system. On downhill weeping tile can be connected to another row that collects water from retaining wall or stone stairs.

French drain mistake that is simple to make but hard to fix is not connecting or properly securing weeping tile pipes together.

This can lead to overflow at point of connection. Break in connection can lead to blockage in one weeper and complete leakage from other, without getting to final destination where water is exited.

Such a large accumulation of water can cause underground streams that wash out large portions of soil. Further collapse of walls and parts of landscape are possible.

To make sure this does not happen, proper connectors are used. They simply click in together with weeping tile and stay connected. Fabric from pipe has to be pulled over connector to cover wholes.

Wrong Material/Rock Backfilled

Empty trench can have all types of soil and the idea is not to mix it with our gravel. At first, contractors need to put down material that is popular in landscape industry.

It is used for purpose of bottom layer of soil not mixing with clear gravel. Another reason for fabric is to make sure small plants do not grow into our french drain system and have roots everywhere.

Proper installation of french drain includes putting gravel at the bottom of trench and on top of it before backfilled with soil. We have repeated this already many times but here it goes again – clear gravel stops soil on top and lets unwanted water go through towards the exit point.

Suggested Material – 1 ½ inch clear gravel stone

On top of everything top soil is preferred for natural growth of grass. Sometimes french drain does not go too deep and we seep gravel stone on surface. Do NOT compact soil on top of trench – just let it be.

Overloading French Darin

Don’t get carried away thinking that simple trench with weeper and gravel can take care of all the water in the world. Simple french drain system is meant to collect rain water from small hills and slopes towards the house with purpose of directing it elsewhere.

Another mistake on our list is overloading the system with other water discharges. Most common water sources that we see are connected to french drain are:

  • Sump Pump Discharge
  • Downspouts from Roof
  • Sloped Driveways and Landscapes
  • Any other drain system

Remodel On Point suggests separating each system and spreading the water across the land. In worst case scenario the trench will not handle amount of water and it stream backwards.

Regulations and Bylaws

If you are not convinced that french drain has to be installed for necessary protection of your or adjacent properties, local authorities can definitely help with that decision.

Bylaw officer or city inspector can obligate home owner to comply with order. It is a written order to comply with local laws and regulations within specific time. When home owners or builders ignore such order, they can write tickets for several hundred dollars.

Multiple offences can end up in court or job shot down for builders. Here is when french drain mistake can lead to municipal order:

Flooding Neighbor – Neighbor can complain to city for improper grading. All the water from your property has to be controlled.

On Initial Drawing – Original grading plan for new home construction can indicate french drain location.

Endangering City Property – When old water discharge systems fail and due to heavy rains you flood city side.

Exit Point for the Water

All the water has to end up somewhere without causing additional problems. As it goes through french drain and natural terrain the exit point has to be sufficient for safe discharge.

It means that accumulation of water from all drain pipes and natural sloped landscape has to end up in place where it does not cause overflow with potential damages to structures or roads.

Most common exit points for french drains are:

Pump Pit – Excavated massive pit that filled with crushed stone

Catch Basin – City installed storm drain that can store/redirect water

Unoccupied Ravine – Natural land where wildlife won’t be bothered

Surveyors or geo engineers can help design proper exit point for planned size of french drain. Always get opinion of professionals to make sure you won’t have to redo it again.

Avoiding to Deal with Roots

Number one cause of drain failures, blockages and collapses is roots from nearby plants or trees. French drains have the same problem and avoiding it is a big mistake.

Whatever is done in landscape business, we always try to make sure roots don’t ruin the work. French drains have water that runs through and attracts all types of plants that expand their roots.

To fix this issue it is recommended to put proper linen material at the bottom of the trench, add several inches of grave and inspect weeping tile for cover material that protects it from blockage.

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Each building has some sort of driveway or at least should have. The main reason is for vehicles to come closer without need to walk all the way. Some homes are residential with small driveway for their car to come in and park before garage or front entrance, and others can be large commercial buildings with loading docks, delivery entrances and casual parking entrances. On Point Remodeling was asked for suggestions on residential driveway for new home construction, and we decided to write detailed article for all our readers. Using this guide you can select the material for your driveway and see what works for your budget. Here are the materials for driveway we will be discussing in our guide:
  • Asphalt
  • Concrete
  • Paver Stone
  • Crushed stone
  • Brick
  • Seashell
  • Gravel
To find good contractor for your driveway, you can either ask our team by email or try to find someone local that worked with neighbors or nearby buildings.

Installation process of any material surface on your driveway

a) Demolition and Excavation – Before anything is done, your contractor will get heavy machinery and scratch off old layer of driveway. They need to go down at least 5-6 inches to insure proper layering before your final layer of material is installed. b) Material Purchase and Delivery – At this point your contract is signed and you already know how the surface will look. Contracting company purchases necessary materials and delivers them to site. Double check if material is correct and not damaged. c) Preparation of Sublevel – Whatever you place as final material, it cannot just be installed directly on top soil. Gravel is the first choice of material that goes down at this stage. Other preferred material is screen sand that can go on top of gravel and works better with stone and bricks. d) Compaction of Ground – To prevent your driveway from moving and changing shapes, all the layers from bottom up have to be properly compacted. Do not leave any spot untouched while doing this or you can get small holes and cracks in driveway after installation. E) Final Installation – This is when all the magic happens. After all preparations and dirty work the final installation is made literally within hours and you can enjoy new driveway. Stone and brick is set up by hand, while other materials require some sort of machinery with manual labor to even out surface.

1. Asphalt

Probably the most used material for road top surfaces as well as driveways is asphalt. This is a mix of gravel and sand that is mixed in and combined by asphalt cement with crude oil. Pros of Asphalt Driveway
  • Very popular and easy to find materials/contractor
  • Completed in 1 day and you can drive on it after
  • Patches and small holes can be fixed fast
Cons of Asphalt Driveway
  • Easy to damage and cracks appear in few years
  • Almost everyone else has same surface
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Prepared for asphalt driveway will cost you around $5 per square foot to finish. The contractors that take care of entire process from taking out old driveway surface, install subsurface and compact the ground with new asphalt on top, will charge on average $5500 per regular size driveway at single home property.

2. Concrete

What we call concrete is a mixture of Portland cement, aggregate as well as sand with gravel. Suggested thickness of concrete for driveway is 6 inches. The mixture needs to cure without being touched or driven on top for several days. Pros of Concrete Driveway
  • Durable material for large weights
  • Long lifespan if installed properly
  • Winter and summer friendly
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  • Has marks and stains over time
  • Hard to repair without replacement
  • Super hard to DIY
To hire contractors for concrete driveway it will cost around $7-$9 per square foot. This will include site preparation with gravel spread and new concrete installation. They will order full truck of concrete (or several for larger driveways) to pour inside forming. Smoothening and curing is required after installation.

3. Paver Stone

The most luxurious material that you can use to create driveway path with is paver stone. It is made out of natural stone with uneven rough shapes that have different line patterns. Paver stones are very heavy and are perfect for weights on top of them. Almost every city in Europe has roads and walks made out of stone that were installed centuries ago. Pros of Paver Stone Driveway
  • Creative designs can be done
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  • Can replace single stone in minutes
Cons of Paver Stone Driveway
  • Weeds growing through
  • Stone can move over time
  • Most expensive material
There is wide selection of stone that can be purchased for your driveway. On average we recommend settling with $17-$20 per square foot for stone with installation included. Working with this material is very intense labor and we recommend hiring professionals that do this type of work every day.

4. Crushed Stone

Our readers sometimes mistake crushed stone with gravel, but this is not the same material. Crushed stone material is achieved when machine is mechanically crushing larger pieces of unused stone for this specific purpose. It is larger than gravel and can have smooth finish. Crushed stone can also have a mix of colors, which is much pleasant to eyes than gravel. Pros of Crushed Stone Driveway
  • Low maintenance required
  • Fits rural area style
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  • Gets very hot during summer
  • Can be messy after many drives
  • Hard to remove snow and ice
Buying crushed stone and installing it on your driveway is as easy as it gets. Similar to other rough materials discussed in this post, only small tools like shovels, dolly and buckets are required to spread it on the road. The cost of crushed stone driveway is between $4 and $6 per square foot from professional local contractors that can finish the job in several days.

5. Brick

The same brick we see being used in wall construction can be installed as top driveway surface. Brick is manufactured by compressing clay with plastic mass. It is heated to extreme temperature and dried up to become as solid as you know it. Pros of Brick Driveway
  • Variety of selections in shapes and shades
  • Bricks are recyclable
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Cons of Brick Driveway
  • Needs regular maintenance
  • Change color over time
  • Old fashion looking
Installing brick on driveway costs $10 per square foot, which is not too far from masonry brick laying as part of the wall. To save money you can use or purchase old brick, that was part of a wall before. Do not mix these two jobs and contact landscaping professionals instead of masonry contractors that work with bricks.

6. Seashell

This material is popular on the coast line where shells can be found near the water. Construction companies use seashells to add in other materials as well as spread them on driveway in rough condition, without adding anything else. It usually comes in white or pearl color and darkens within year because of mixing with sand and dirt. Pros of Seashell Driveway
  • Environmentally friendly
  • Has natural drainage
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Cons of Seashell Driveway
  • Break and crack under light weight
  • Sharp and very hard to walk on
  • Gets stuck in shoes and tires
To deliver and spread seashells on driveways costs below $4, which is only slightly more expensive than rough gravel. As you go further from coast line, cost of material increases due to delivery. This material is elegant and very soft. We recommend adding edge lines with darker color landscape material to create visual path.

7. Gravel

This material is used in other construction mixes and underlayment systems. It’s literally fragments and small crushed stones that are put on top of soil. It is easily spread out by hands and anyone can do it. Pros of Gravel Driveway
  • Cheapest of them all
  • Easy DIY Job
  • Can install another material on top
Cons of Gravel Driveway
  • Needs to be graded very often
  • Will mix with dirt and leaves
  • Washes up with heavy rains
It is rough material and can be purchased in bulk (by metric tons or cubic meters). The cost of driveway with gravel should not exceed $3 per square foot, but you can save tons of money by purchasing materials and doings installation by yourself. You do not require specific tools or heavy equipment for the job and delivery of gravel can be arranged directly to your project.

Conclusion

To properly finish any and all of these driveways requires skills and experience. There is no way you can complete any of these projects without heavy equipment and tools that regular home owner’s just store in their garages. Most of those who will read this post will prefer to install asphalt driveway, because of its popularity and low costs. We want to encourage home owners to go for personal preference and what matches your house, rather than getting the most affordable and popular items. Driveway jobs have to be completed fast; otherwise you will need to park elsewhere while the project is running. To not overpay, ask us for quotation sample on material you prefer in specific region where the work need to be done and our team can provide some numbers.

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